Please Don't Hurt My Family

 

Renee, I just want to show you some love. You’re getting ripped up on this blog, so I just wanted to say “Thanks” for expressing your view point. I think that too many people forget that when something is posted on Momlogic, it is open for comments - whether they agree or disagree doesn’t matter. Personally I think I’m going to stop visiting this site. The readers are very diverse, but most all of them cannot respect people who have different opinions. Renee, I believe that you have been repectful, but misunderstood. Other readers have put words into your mouth, and that’s not fair. I completely agree that it’s not fair to write on behalf of another person - especially a child. I think that Abby’s mom is being completely unreasonable by lashing out through these comments when (I assume) she is the one who approved the posting that she knew would generate quite a response. In fact, I would speculate that Abby’s mom approved the post in hopes that it would generate this kind of response. I’m not saying that it’s bad to try and stir people up. I just don’t think that it is fair to plaster your child’s image and name all over an article that she clearly didn’t write.

- Kate

Posted 11/20/08 04:26 PM

 

 

Renee…you are arguing marriage issues because you have stated that you are against my lifestyle and that we do not deserve the same rights and. You just have not stated it in those words…these would be your words Renee…”Abby, honey, I’m so sorry your mommy (and yes, I mean that to be singular because it is biologically impossible to have two mommies) would put your name on this manipulative piece of fiction. It is sad that she is unable to leave you out of this issue. Maybe you should ask your mommy why she is subjecting your family to what she knows will be controversy.” This is a strong statement…and Renee, people can read between the lines even if you don’t think so!!! So, please if you want to be judgmental, say it straight out instead of trying to be subliminal about it! Your post was condescending and demeaning!!! It is the decision of myself and my partner what is best for our children and by you posting a statement like you did is extremely hypocritical. You said…”Did you ever realize I never said anything about being for or against gay marriage/unions? I am against it obviously, but never once did I say it.” This is what the readers are responding to. Then you turn around and post this “I never expressed a concern about homosexual parenting!” Please, before responding, look at your previous posts because you flip flop all over the place!

- Abby's Mom

Posted 11/20/08 04:36 PM

 

 

Renee said the following: “That issue was directly related to the child as in it could not exist without the child. It was the CHILD’S education and rights. The argument for or against homosexual marriage is an adult issue. It does affect the child, but points can be made and discussions can be had by the adults involved.” Well, Renee, I would respond that there is NOTHING more “related” to a four-year-old child’s world than her family. This issue cuts to the very heart of that family. Yes, her mothers could hide their dismay and hurt from their children (and probably do to a very large extent), but that isn’t healthy, either. Children benefit from being in a happy home where people are honest with one another. How can that happen in a post-Proposition-8 world? I mean, I guess it’s possible, but that Proposition makes it a lot less likely and a lot more difficult…

- Andrew

Posted 11/20/08 05:18 PM

 

 

My name is Abby and years from now I am going to be very ashamed of my mother. Not for being gay, but for posting something supposedly from me. That is so sick that my beloved mother would care so less of me to do that, and just to get herself in the spotlight! Grow up mommy and fight your battles yourself and not through your helpless little girl. -ABBY

- doug

Posted 11/20/08 05:43 PM

 

 

My name is Abby and years from now I am going to be very proud of my mother. Not for being gay, but for posting something that I have expressed to her but could not write myself. That is so great that my beloved mother would care so much about me to do that, I’m so glad she could turn my pain into something that could throw this tragic event in the history of human rights into the spotlight! Thank you mommy for giving me the voice to help fight our battles so I didn’t have to feel like a helpless little girl. -ABBY

- Jerry

Posted 11/20/08 05:57 PM

 

 

Well said!

- ILoveJerry

Posted 11/20/08 07:11 PM

 

 

“I am against it obviously, but never once did I say it.” That is the problem and where the conflict comes in, Renee. I’m sure you have many fine qualities and do care deeply for your children, like all parents. But, imagine if the country had just successfully voted that Christians (or whatever your faith) were not allowed to marry or adopt children, because enough people in the country were against Christianity. Don’t you think that you and those who believed as you do would protest that and do whatever you could to change that law so that you could be married and/or adopt like everyone else? I think, then, that you would feel as we do. But, since you don’t have to worry about that happening, perhaps it’s hard for you to relate to people who DO have to deal with it….because it affects their life every day. Everyone has the right to believe what they want, but when those beliefs impact, in a negative way, how other people live their lives, that is wrong. As long as adults (parents/teachers/preachers) continue to tell kids that some people (those who don’t live or believe as they do) are not living “right”…hate and discrimination will continue thriving on this planet. It’s a shame that “Do unto others as you would have done unto to you” isn’t the only mantra that people lived by. It’s simple, easy to understand and, with judgement and hate put aside, is really pretty easy to do.

- Ken

Posted 11/20/08 10:04 PM

 

 

Wow Doug…sounds like you have some issues. Maybe you should reach deep within yourself and try to figure out why the fact that my 4 year old has issues of her parents not being able to marry. Yes, she may not understand the whole concept, but eventually she will along with Max. I am proud that I am able to make you and everyone else react like you have. My children are the real victims in this, not me. Every person that has discriminated against my rights as a human being is only punishing my children. They are the ones that won’t be able to understand why people in this world are full of hate. So, instead of being judgmental, why don’t you use that energy on freedom for all??? I am sure if you were told that you were less than because of who you loved, you would do anything to make a difference. Just be happy that we chose to share what my beautiful child is thinking and feeling. Maybe, it will help you get a dose of reality!

- Anonymous

Posted 11/21/08 12:16 AM

 

 

That last entry was from me!

- Abby's Mom

Posted 11/21/08 12:19 AM

 

 

Judgementa Crossworthy…great posts!!!

- Justin Case

Posted 11/21/08 12:30 AM

 

 

Why thank you, Mr. Case! I’ve really enjoyed makin’ new friends here on the site. I think that Juanita, Renee, Kate, Doug and I might plan us a little get together sometime soon. It’s always nice meetin’ new people and discussin’ old ideals, don’t ya’ agree?

- Judgementa Crossworthy

Posted 11/21/08 03:20 AM

 

 

“Abby’s mom” (or so we think, because anyone can pose as anyone online) So what if your gay? You exposed your child. End of story. Try again for prop 8 later and leave your kid out of it.

- doug

Posted 11/21/08 11:39 AM

 

 

Doug…I am Abby’s mom and I am happy that this story was posted. Because of people like you who are closed minded about how this issue affects my children and seems as if the fact that children are being affected bothers you. If it didn’t, you wouldn’t react the way you are. Try to put yourself in my children’s shoes and then speak up. She is the issue as well as many other children in this world! I guess ignorance is bliss in your world!!!

- Anonymous

Posted 11/21/08 04:40 PM

 

 

The above entry is from me!!!

- Abby's Mom

Posted 11/21/08 04:43 PM

 

 

Judgementa Crossworthy…I think that is a fabulous idea…I think that we should get them special hats…since, they are special people!!!

- Justin Case

Posted 11/21/08 05:18 PM

 

 

Abby’s mom, I can’t believe you have the nerve to say people are closed minded and judgmental since they don’t agree with you. That is ludicrous and demeaning to me and others. I feel sorry for you and your little kids. They are the innocent ones and have to suffer the torture you are putting them through in this post. Talk about closed minded, if we don’t believe in your values we become the bad ones. How hypocritical of you. I already said I don’t care how you live your life. The bottom line is you want a piece of paper that says you are “accepted.” I guess if you we don’t go along with what you believe we are wrong. Hmmm seems your the one who is closed minded and can’t accept our views.

- Juanita Melvin

Posted 11/22/08 01:20 AM

 

 

I am for Juanita Melvin…she is one for BLACKS and NOT FOR ALL…whoo hoo!!!!

- Justin Case

Posted 11/22/08 12:40 PM

 

 

Juanita…I am sorry you feel that way!

- Abby's Mom

Posted 11/22/08 12:56 PM

 

 

Thank you Juanita, “Abby’s mom” and myself are going through the same discrimination based on us being in a relationship with another human of the same sex. However, using a story like this to get ‘shock value’ is disgusting and not the way to resolve the issue. My partner and I leave our son out of this matter because he is a child, but when he wants to express his feelings about this he may draw a picture or write a letter. The day my partner and I could not marry, he wrote a fake letter to help him with his emotions. Maybe Abby could do the same and it would be from her own heart, carried out by her. I will get married one day, and my son will be there to see me.

- doug

Posted 11/22/08 12:57 PM

 

 

Oh Doug. What it must be like to be perfectly precious. You should be so proud that you have all the answers. I bet your son will just grow up to be just perfect too… and quite the artist.

- Doug's Fan

Posted 11/22/08 08:16 PM

 

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