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Octuplets Mom 'Obsessed' With Kids

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More details are surfacing about the octuplets' mom.

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The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

According to the Long Beach Press-Telegram, the family's finances are also in shambles. Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy in March of 2008. Court records indicate she owes  $984,426.30 to creditors.

The eight babies -- six boys and two girls -- were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.

What do you think of this single mom's obsession?

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SesshoumarusGirl January 31, 2009, 1:36 PM

I question her psych state, period.

There is a big differance between sincerely wanting a family and working toward that goal, and popping out as many pups as you can to fill a void in your life/feed an obsession.

Her mother didn’t need therapy, SHE needs therpay.

Jen January 31, 2009, 6:19 PM

Weird. Someone needs to find out who is “paying” her and why. Sounds very unethical.

Suz January 31, 2009, 7:24 PM

as to Jen’s comment…is Michael Jackson involved in this??

mel January 31, 2009, 7:25 PM

She is probably getting grants for going to school and using the left over money to pay for the treatments. I think that she meant that she was getting “paid to go to school.”

Anonymous January 31, 2009, 10:08 PM

Are birth certificates public information? I just wasn’t sure. Scary.

Mike January 31, 2009, 10:37 PM

I think everyone is missing the point here! It don’t matter wh or how or why what matters is there are 8 newborn babies in this world to a mother who wanted them. That in itself is alot! Think about all the moms and dads who abandon thier single child or abuse them like the party animal in florida who killed her beautiful baby girl.

Heres a mom who cares, so think in the positive mind not the negatve and besides she is working on her masters not a fly-by-night part girl like the killer in florida!!

Think about it that way for a moment!!!!

Eileen January 31, 2009, 11:11 PM

1. The physician who performed the invitro should have his license revoked.

2. The children should perhaps be adopted to parents who can care for them

3. How did Kaiser become involved. It has to be from someone’s employment. They do no do medicaid.

I have been an operating room nurse for 40 years. During that time I have been and OR director and director of maternal-child health. This entire event ‘smells of ethical scandals’.

Shame on all of us.

Kiki January 31, 2009, 11:51 PM

Re: Mike-I think you are missing the point. This is woman with no job and no partner who has 14 children she cannot support. Yeah, I have no doubt she wanted them, but it isn’t fair that the CA taxpayers will wind up footing the bill.

As far as her working towards her M.A. that proves nothing. Instead of being a “professional student”, she needs to get a job to support those kids.

ladystar February 1, 2009, 12:30 AM

It is incredibly unfair that the children were brought into the world in this manner. Children deserve to have a Mother, and Father. It is tragic that women actually plan to be single parents. It is unfair to the children. Accidental pregnancy does occur, and the Mother does not deserve the stigma they once were forced to bear. However, to purposely become a single parent is very selfish. The Doctor should lose his licence due to his irresponsible actions. The Mother should undergo extensive Psychiatric treatment. Hopefully all of the babies will be healthy, and life will be good to them. They certainly didn’t ask for any of this.

Kara February 1, 2009, 12:48 AM

Ladystar, you have got to be kidding! What is your problem with single mothers??? Unfair to the children? A good mother raises her children just fine, thank you. More over most mothers are single parents, whether they are married or not. I’m fairly certain you just slipped through some freaking time warp because your sentiments are outdated - hell they are carbon dated! Single mothers do just fine. My kids are very happy their father is out of the house, now we don’t have to be afraid all the time. Just because a couple look respectable and happy, have a nice house and a good income doesn’t mean what goes on in private is healthy or safe, TRUST ME. I don’t agree with what this woman has done but honestly, you need to get over yourself.

tweb142 February 1, 2009, 8:52 AM

She should be arrested and thrown in jail. Oh well, OBAMA will pay for them with my tax money.

very sorrry for babies February 1, 2009, 10:25 AM

This so called fertility doctor should lose his license. He is a disgusting greedy charlaton. Stealing money from a obviously very very disturbed woman. Now these poor poor babies are put in danger from this obvious sick sick woman. And no father to protect them. And this Quack doctor is a Disgrace to the word doctor. What a money hungry creep.

Amy Tuteur, MD February 1, 2009, 12:13 PM

This woman’s story is almost certainly a fabrication. Six IVF procedures in 7 years? All IVF procedures 100% successful? No means to pay for any of these IVF procedures? A doctor returning 8 embryos to a uterus at once and all of them implanting?

No, it is far more likely that this woman treated herself with fertility medication, without the aid of any doctor. Possibly she was hoping for a spectacular number of babies, with an eye toward attention, money or both.

Anonymous February 1, 2009, 12:58 PM

When I first heard the news I thought something was wrong because no one was giving any info on the parents. NO WONDER!!!! How totally irresponsible! If the info is correct she has ruined her parents lives by relying on their finances to cover her selfish desires without considering them at all. With all her schooling in child development
and counseling she had to be sitting in the back of the class with this idea! I for one have given much thought in the raising of my family so I could afford the ability to raise them without any help from the gov., or outside family. We need to realize our desire to have many children should only become real if we can provide fully on our own and not rely on someone else for food,shelter etc. A true mother puts her children first not her selfish feelings.

L of Las Vegas February 1, 2009, 4:14 PM

This woman has some serious issues. Someone above commented about how this woman really “wants” kids and so many parents are neglecting theirs. Excuse me, but how do you think this woman can possibly give any quality of attention, not to mention financial support, to 14 kids?? I think this woman should be sterilized and child protective services should be checking in on this family at least once a month. No woman in her right mind would have 14 kids on purpose. Being a woman this is my point of view.

Pavlov February 1, 2009, 4:30 PM

RE: Mike
Human beings are not endangered species - the world is busting at the seems with excess and poverty. Orphanages are full of kids who need loving homes. It’s completely messed up that a bunch of mad scientists are ‘creating’ children to be cared for by an obviously crazy person - and even worse, one without a job, spouse or partner.

Melissa February 1, 2009, 5:34 PM

People used to have 10 or 12 kids all the time. It is not impossible. My grandfather and grandmother each had 9 and 12 siblings. As long as she is a good mother, then it is nobody’s business. You guys should not be up in arms about it. It is not illegal to have multiple children. By the way, many women are obsessed with having many babies. Get over yourselves and quit being haters. Let her alone. Instead of being negative, send her some positive advice. She is going to need it.

Anonymous February 1, 2009, 5:38 PM

She should give seven of them up for adoption-maybe eight

Kathy Garcia February 1, 2009, 6:34 PM

Melissa —- Yes its true people use to have large families but they did not have them artificially and expect the gov. to take care of them. What is the background of the birth parent? There is some talk that she and her parents are not citizens, if so I say they return to their own country and let their country foot the bill.

michelle February 1, 2009, 8:39 PM

kathy, I almost said the same thing, but you said it for me. right on.

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