Momlogic's Jill: How do I explain to my teen daughters why Miss California suffers no consequences for her dishonesty?
Mr. Trump, although I'm not necessarily surprised you let Miss California keep her crown ... I'm very disappointed in you. You're a dad -- and you should know better. Miss California Carrie Prejean broke the rules. She publicly lied about it. And for this, you reward her by commending her behavior and allowing her to keep her crown. Really?
Do you understand what message this sends to young girls? I guess we tell our daughters that it's okay for Carrie to violate the conditions of her pageant contract by getting breast implants, posing topless (multiple times), and failing to disclose any of it until it was uncovered (pun intended). We explain that there are no repercussions for her promiscuity and dishonesty -- rather, she receives recognition and speaking engagement offers. Not to mention the conversation we had to have about tolerance and compassion after she inarticulately lambasted gay marriage during the competition.
Carrie Prejean is sadly just an example of how controversy and deceit equal fame and success in our society. I mean: Does anyone even remember the name of the winner of the Miss USA pageant? No. But Carrie Prejean is a household name.
Thanks for nothing, Donald Trump!
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Donald Trump and some 17-year-old’s breasts are NOT your daughter’s problem. Her problem is that she sees you paying attention to this garbage, in which girls are rewarded for being pretty and how they look in swim suits, rather than their ability and the content of their character.
- Momomania
How about you explain that not everyone shares your opinion but that they are entitled to do as they see fit. Just because it isn’t how you (or other people) would have handled it, doesn’t make it wrong. How about you tell your daughter that it was Trump’s decision, if it had been up to you, you would have punished her more severely.
- Jessi
Whether you watch pageants or not, they are part of pop culture and in the zeitgeist. I don’t watch pageants with my daughter, but we do watch the news—and this story has been everywhere. I think what bothers me the most is that Trump considered Ms. California’s topless pictures “acceptable” and “fine” — which just sends the message that it’s ok to take your clothes off.
- Joan
Joan, the whole point of these pageants is to equate the value of girls with how they look. Why else are all contestants pretty/thin/in bikinis, and why else are really bright average-looking girls never competitive? Trump is just making this sad fact a little more explicit.
- Karen
Oh please I am so sick and tired of people giving Ms.CA a hard time about those photos! It’s not as if they were pornographic. Jeeze! They could’ve been SO MUCH WORSE. If she had supported gay marriage and then these photos came out the people are now criticizing her would be supporting her. Give me a break!
- AM
I think we are all missing the point, Number one, who cares what her opinions are about gay marriage, she is just one person, Number 2: who cares about her boob job and plastic surgery…OK so she is fake and plastic. The point is she lied on her application for the pageant, even though some view her pictures as “Not Pornographic” they were still deemed not appropriate for the Miss America Image, and that alone should have gotten her crown taken away, but wait we live in a society that thrives on “Dirt” so of course Trump isn’t going to take her crown away, because all the hoop la would stop, now it can be debated for many more weeks in the media, mean while hundereds of our soliders are dying over seas fighting wars in the name of freedom, the very thing that is being taken advantage of in this situation. I feel I live in a very sorry society. God Bless the next generation
- Lynn
Miss USA not Miss America, Lynn!
- Laurie
C’mon—Donald Trump just loves being in the spotlight at the center of a controversy, doesn’t he?
- Haley
Miss USA lives in the grey area between Miss America and a porn star. They’re just a bunch of underwear models strutting in 4-inch heels. It’s not a “scholarship” thing. There’s no presumption that these are innocent girls-next-door. (Unless you live next door to the Playboy Mansion). Besides, arent ALL pageants are antiquated and kind of a joke? It’s just eye candy at 8pm Eastern/9pm Central. It’s a chance for us to look at hot women in tiny swimsuits. (They should just eliminate the painful Q&A section. Make them do some water ballet instead.) There is no redeeming value in the Miss USA Pageant. But we watch. Cause darn it… those girls are hot! So I won’t be advising my daughters to strive to become Miss USA, or a Vegas showgirl, or America’s Next Top Model. They’re all just dumb and very pretty. So why pretend to hold them to any sort of moral standard? If Carrie Prejean were the moral girl she says she is, she would have given back the title. And then we’d all forgive her and wish her success.
- Lisa K
I think you’re all missing the point. We have freedom of speech in this country, and last time I checked Miss California didn’t yell “fire!” in a movie theater or incite violence on a minority group. She was asked a question and answered it. Thankfully, most of us disagreed with her position — but that doesn’t mean she hasn’t the right to express it. As for the legalities of the contract, that’s for lawyers and The Donald to work out. She’s the perfect object lesson for our daughters — a great jumping off point for conversation!
- Jodi
Mom asked “what message does this send and what should she tell her daughter”? Well Mom, question#1 How old is your daughter? #2. Maybe mom, you should be totally honest with her first by pointing out that it’s not good to lie and or to cheat about anything, and not just this pageant. Then perhaps, you could really be HONEST with your daughter and point out(give an example) of how you lied, cheated or was dishonest about something in your life and how you paid the consequences and the lesson that you learned. AND if for some reason you have ALWAYS did the right thing, never lied about anything in your life, never cheated, never withheld the truth, always walked the straight and narrow, then maybe you could lie like Carried did, I don’t mean lie, just PRETEND that you were flawless at least once in your life(we will keep your secret) and that’s how your daughter will understand and you will possibly get the right message to your daughter. Suggestion, after you have made up a story( we know that you are perfect), follow up with one of the MAJOR ISSUES of this fiasco, and that’s, perhaps in the near future your daughter might just lose her right to speak freely in this country because when some of us don’t hear what we want to hear, we will find a way to persecute you. So please stay on top of your game by making sure that your daughter will follow in your footsteps by being a perfect being such as yourself and she doesn’t have to ever worry about a thing!! Let us know when your book comes out. Isn’t the title of your book “How to be Perfect in a Imperfect World”!! P.S. Ms.Carrie, in spite of her flaws stood up for what she believed in and for me, It was refreshing to see that some of us in this country are not obsessed about being politically correct. Kudos to her!!
- Jewel
Jewel…your response to Mom couldn’t have been better stated. Thank you for putting this moron in her place.
- carriesmom
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