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I have yet to see a valid argument as to why someone else's marriage will lead to the downfall of shiny, happy families across the land.
Guest Blogger Stop H8: I am actually not surprised at the California Supreme Court's decision to uphold Prop 8. The reasons the initiative was brought before the Court were technical and complicated to begin with -- namely, deciding whether the proposition was an amendment or a revision. Unfortunately, they were not deciding if Prop 8 violated the rights of an entire group of citizens. What I am surprised at are the reactions of the people who not only supported taking away the rights of a minority group, but were actively involved in making that happen.
The only people affected by gay marriage are gay people. In the wise words of comedians across the land, "If you don't believe in gay marriage, don't marry a gay person." End of story. All the effort that is put into hatemongering and delivering the same speech about "marriage is between a man and a woman" is really a moot point, since in the long run, other people's marriages will never affect anyone besides the two people getting married. Why is that so hard to understand?
I have yet to see a valid argument as to why someone else's marriage will lead to the downfall of shiny, happy families across the land. Is it because of the kids? How exactly will John and Jason's marriage make little Kaylee feel? Well, if you were a sound parent, little Kaylee would know that there are all different kinds of people in the world and that some families have a mom and dad and others have two moms or two dads. Kaylee should be able to understand this simple lesson in human tolerance.
Gay marriage is a civil rights issue -- no more, no less. We are all entitled to being treated fairly and equally under the law. For someone to fight for a group of people to purposely be treated unfairly is both hateful and wrong.
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Thanks for addressing this so eloquently MomLogic!!
I totally agree!!!!
I also agree…I hope ppl can learn to open their minds and hearts because you’re so right that you can’t help who you fall in love with. I am in love with my 19 yr old daughter (she’s soo hot) and I wish ppl could understand that and just accept it.
john - disgusting. I hate when people try to trivialize it or make it into something it’s not. As if that somehow makes it okay for them to be hateful of a whole group of people.
Alison, I’m not trying to trivialize it. I don’t understand why it’s disgusting…I can’t help who I fall in love (lust) with anymore than gay ppl can! And you can’t believe that I’m the only father/mother/brother/sister who has fallen for someone inside their own family. There are many of us out there. Why won’t you support me?
Oooo John, compare homosexuality to incest. That’s so clever. Gee, you’ve really turned my mind around, thanks. So what if you’ve missed the point entirely? That’s what you were going for, right?
(As I feel John might be a little slow on the uptake, I’ll clarify: THIS IS SARCASM.)
MarMar, Let see…incest is wrong but homosexuality isn’t? Why? because more ppl would rather be gay than have sex with their own family members. Why is it okay to support one group of ppl and not the other? Incest may not appeal to you but homosexuality doesn’t appeal to me!
Incest is illegal because of issues with child abuse (i.e., the daughter you refer to - what, the attraction only started when she was of legal age?)and birth defects (like the hemophilia that plagued many royal families in the Middle Ages when they married their first cousins, and the pharoahs of ancient Egypt who married their siblings.) Plus scientific studies have shown that people who grow up as families tend to not be attracted to one another, even if there is no blood relation (such as stepfamilies), showing there may be an evolutionary protection in place for such situations. And if all of this isn’t enough for you, please bear in mind that there are U.S. states where it is legal to marry your first cousin.
However, there is no risk of any of this when you’re dealing with adults who want to marry - they just happen to be of the same sex! We are talking about consenting adults who love one another. As the original poster so clearly stated, why does anyone have a problem with this?
I refuse to argue with you anymore, though. Your mind will not be changed, and through your fallacy-riddled arguments, mine will not be either.
The issue of gay marriage is not about how it affects other people’s marriages it is about changing the law and how that will affect peoples right to freedom of religion. If a church will not perform a ceremony for a gay couple or let a gay couple use their church they can be sued once it is a law. Then they could lose their non-profit status and religious people would be forced to accept what they believe God has clearly said is not acceptable. Certain religions are forbidden to do certain things; eat pork etc.. homosexuality is forbidden for some Christians. Why change the already existing laws instead of giving more rights to civil unions and protecting everyone. It is not about hate, it is about the right to practice your religion. As far a science goes, the sex practices of male gay men is scientifically linked to many diseases so John’s point is not all that outrageous.
@Anonymous - Um, ‘as far as science goes,’ the sex practices of HETERO couples is also linked to plenty of diseases.
Also your point about gays suing churches is invalid. Why would a couple want to get married in a place that thinks they are going to hell? Why wouldn’t gays sue churches now for not accepting their lifestyle, irregardless of marriage rights? Freedom of religion will stand either way. One will not affect the other.
Soon all the H8ters will be made to look as foolish (and bigoted, and horribly misinformed) as they sound. And that will be a glorious day.
Priests in the Catholic church are permitted to not perform marriages for divorcees or anyone else they feel should not be married in their church. I can’t see why an officiant of any religion would have to perform a ceremony for a gay couple if their religion forbade it or if they just didn’t want to. (BTW, what are the chances of a gay couple wanting to get married in that church anyway?!) Bagelface, I am in total agreement. One day these people will look as foolish, bigoted, and horribly misinformed as those who fought the civil rights movement back in the 60’s. And I don’t think that day is far away. Frankly, I think for most of us, it’s already here.
I think the argument that it will ‘confuse children’ about marriage and relationships is just the MOST bulls—t excuse! You dont want to allow two people who love eachother to marry because you might have to deal with confusion and questions by your children about homosexuality?? God forbid!!! the world is huge and complicated. there are MANY MANY questions children will ask. if you are too F-ing lazy to explain homosexuality to your children then maybe YOU shouldnt be allowed to raise them.
As a soon to be mother myself, i look forward to my childrens questions and am excited to raise open minded, loving and accepting children who will look back on this fight we are fighting and say “i cant believe people used to think that way!”
John: Uh, this is MomLogic, not NAMBLA.
Kudos to the blog poster, I totally agree! Since it’s only been about 40 years or so since we just now seem to be working out our racial lines, perhaps in another 15 years we will be ok with gays.
A good friend of mine said that it seems that every generations has the challenge to change some backwards kind of thinking, and this is it for us.
It’s either that, or get a gays only drinking fountain. =P
totally agree!
It is good too read your site again dude, i see some interesting updates here…
AMEN! Well said…