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PiscesDad Barred from Taking Jewish Baby to Church
Is this okay?
A father has been hit with an unusual restraining order: Keep his daughter away from any religion that is not Jewish, reports CBS.
After he and his wife Rebecca (who's Jewish) split up, Joseph Reyes had his daughter baptized and sent his ex-wife a picture of the ceremony.
Rebecca Reyes says she only learned of her daughter's Baptism when Joseph sent her the picture. She says she and Joseph had agreed to raise their daughter Jewish, and he had even converted.
The restraining order asks the judge to bar Joseph from taking his daughter to church. According to the petition, failure to restrain him will "continue to the emotional detriment of the child."
The attorney for Joseph Reyes says he will appeal.
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Marcomom, I agree with you until you stated that the child should decide. The parents are responsible for instilling religious values. Kids are not in a position to decide. Later, when he/she is an adult, they can make their own choices but as a parent that is your domain. They agreed to raise the kid as jewish and then after the split up, he takes the kid to church without telling her and then takes a picture of the kid and sends it to her. thats pretty twisted if you ask me.
Another reason why if your religion is important you should marry someone of the same faith.
It seems to be at the emotional detriment of mother not the child as she has no idea what’s going on
It seems to be at the emotional detriment of the mother not the daughter as she doesn’t know what’s going on
He did that to spite her, so I can understand her wanting an order like that. He had agreed on a specific religion and you can’t just up and change your mind in a fight.
This man has every right to raise his daughter in his religion. So what if they decided to raise her jewish when they were together. People change their minds all the time and he has just as much as a right to make this decision just as she does. Many kids are raised with more than one religion in their homes. This is no different.
This man has zero right to do this. He is just being spiteful. He and his wife AGREED to raise the child JEWISH and then he goes and baptizes the child? WHAT?! Sorry, you cannot be both Jewish and Christian! I see this as immediate reason to revoke his visitation rights.
If it were reversed and the parent wanted to suddenly make the child Jewish when it was agreed to raise the child Christian all the commentors would be against it. Pathetic
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WTF? revolt his visitations right? that’s just crazy. If a wife leaves her husband and broke her promise made before GOD to stay together until death due them part, should she lose everything she got in the marriage for breaking her promise. People everyday change their minds about decisions made during their marriages and it shouldn’t be held against them. My husband and I decided to follow his religion even before we got married but there has been many of times that I wish now that I hadn’t agreed to that. If we spilt up I would take my kids to my family church and he could continue to take them to his church. This is certainly not a reason to remove a parent from ones life. Grow up!
She is now Christian if she’s Baptized. She IS Christian, no matter what she does on Sundays.
I agree with MarcomMom.
I read the Chicago news story.
The “baby” is three years old. At this age she can sense that there’s a difference between religious ceremonys.
Mr Reyes did convert.
They did get married.
They did have a child.
Yes, he changed his mind but he set everything motion prior to that change and he ought to accept the fact the child will be raised Jewish.
If the couple had a diagreement about this than they should not have gotten married in the first place or not have a child. They did both because they had obviously had an agreemnt. Hence, the reason for his conversion.
J - the child’s mother is Jewish -therefore, by Jewish law, regardless of the father baptizing the child the child is JEWISH. Since the child did not willfully convert she is not christian (and even if she “willfully” converted as an adult the Jewish community would not recognize the conversion because her mother is Jewish).
I think it is awful that the father would show such disrespect and such spitefulness after agreeing to raise the child Jewish. This is clearly a revenge tactic and speaks VOLUMES about his parenting.
This is yet another example of why it is a good idea to prevent anyone from participating in, observing, or knowing about any religious doctrines and ceremonies until they reach the age of 25, maybe 30. It is only at that stage of life that they have any possibility, and not a very good one at that, of understanding what they are becoming involved in.
-Daniel
The fact that this headline includes “Jewish baby” is ridiculous. Substitute democrat and republican for Christian and Jewish in this article and you’ll begin to see how crazy this is. A baby cannot be Jewish any more than it can be pro-life or pro-choice. Assuming religion is important, the only reasonable conclusion is to let a person make an informed decision on the matter when at least old enough to make informed decisions. There is no such thing as a Jewish baby. The baby doesn’t even know what Judaism is.
Muero - clearly you don’t understand Jewish culture. Any baby born to a Jewish woman IS a Jewish baby. If the head line read “Christian Baby forced to Synagogue” EVERYONE on this board would be protesting that the child’s religion was being stolen or something. It’s just such an example of the prejudice Jewish people still suffer every day.
Children don’t decide for themselves because they are children and any argument to the contrary is ridiculous. Let your children decide when their bedtime should be or whether or not they should eat their vegetables, or even what type of clothing is appropriate for them to wear…doesn’t work. Parents are there to make decisions for their children and the decision they made was to raise the child as Jewish. It is a sad day when the father lacks the integrity to follow through this his choice requiring the court to step in.
Denying him the right to take the kid to church on his time is a violation of his constitutional rights. It’s his daughter too and he has a say in how she’s raised as long as he isn’t harming her. Church won’t harm her. By Catholic canon law, this child is now a baptized Catholic, so the headline is a bit misleading. She’s both Catholic and Jewish. Mom should get to take her to synagogue and teach her about the Jewish religion and Dad should get to take her to Mass and the girl can decide when she’s old enough which she wants to be.
Joseph’s wife is Rebecca Reyes (Shapiro), and her father is Howard Shapiro, who is an Executive Vice President and General Counsel for Playboy. That’s right, the man who doesn’t want his granddaughter exposed to Christianity, makes his money from pornography!! (Does the word hypocrite come to mind?)
We’re all familiar with divorcing parents using their kids as pawns, but taking their spirituality hostage, too? I can see why she’s upset if he agreed to raise the child in the Jewish faith, but ultimately the child ought to be able to make her own decision about what she believes. That’s my two cents.